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Cosmetic IPL Laser Reviews & Comparisons > Orion Laser Harmony

Lookig to get a Pixel to add to my Harmony IPL platform.Any "gently" used ones out there?

08.8 | Unregistered CommenterBGI

Love the Brindleys. RJ Brindley & Associates 612-670-9419.
Love my Sciton. Get it right the first time. Get the fully loaded sciton. We started with just the twin 1064's, wish we would have just started with the whole package. Marketing is expensive...you might as well be able to offer the client everything...be full service.

Love my sciton as well. ServiceTech - what company do you work for? Do you travel to do annual PM's? Can you also do repairs should my (our of warranty) Sciton need one?

Thanks.

03.14 | Unregistered CommenterKC

Do not buy a syneron. I paid 70,000. for mine and sold it one year later. It burned several people even at low levels on both the laser hair removal and the skin rejunivation. It is a poor machine and is very unpredictable. I have worked in laser/MD offices for 15 years. By far the best and most reliable laser is the harmony by orion. Very dependable. NEVER had any problems. User friendly. Sure you can buy a $100,000 or 200,000 laser and get ok results but for the money I would put a Harmony up against them any day.

08.26 | Unregistered CommenterLinda

Sounds a little like Linda works for orion. Linda, I will take you up on that offer. Lets go head to head and see which lasers the patients are happier with.

08.26 | Unregistered CommenterLH

Thanks ServiceTech

10.10 | Unregistered CommenterCharry

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12.22 | Unregistered CommenterCharry

wps

As this is site is primarily for MD's, I feel like a bit of an intruder, however I must ask if you have monitored the output of the BBL to support your statement? You said that you prefer the output of the Palomar which suggests to me that you feel it is somehow better than the Cutera. I can not speak for the Cutera device but the Palomar is one of the devices I do service and I have found the pulse-to-pulse stability less stable than the BBL and the fluence I measure is typically only 70% - 80% of what is dialled up. Does the Cutera calibration port only check the output, or does it automatically adjust it if it is incorrect? I really have to question why it needs constant calibration - is it incapable of a maintaining a stable output for any period of time? My other concern with user calibration ports is the potential for mis-calibration due to handpiece mis-alignment or detector faults. This could potentially cause the output to be excessive. Without an external calibration port, an IPL can only decline in performance until the next service, but allow the user to influence the output and you open the door for mis-adventure.

07.27 | ServiceTech
ServiceTech,
Don't feel like an intruder at all. This site is generally for docs but all knowledgeable folks are welcome to participate. If you've got experience with the IPL and laser market, you're comments are going to be quite welcome to the majority of us who are interested in well thought out comparisons between the technology providers. Happy to have you here.

07.27 | Jeff Barson
ServiceTech

The handpieces that you have serviced with 280k were three year devices?For all this period you haven't noticed any significant output degrade?I can't also understand the reason of an external calibration port.I think Lumenis like Cutera has also a calibration port in Quantum.The technician of Lumenis has told me that he recommends to owners of Quantum and Lumenis One to do the calibration once a week.I don't understand why?Anyway i am very satisfied with my BBL because i think that it's one of best.

07.27 | Charry
Hi Charry,

The two BBL's with pulse counts in the 200K's will be three years old in Oct & Dec. The calibration check specifies a fluence and a range of pulse widths for each of the seven filters. The tolerance for each setting is +/-10%. I have always found the output within spec. One BBL initially produced 145J/cm2 when the setting was 20J/cm2 @ 515nm @ 20ms. (20J/cm2 x tip area of 6.75cm2 = 135J/cm2). When last checked in April it was producing 139J/cm2 for this setting. Adjusting the pulse width should not and does not affect the delivered energy.

07.28 | ServiceTech
Thanks ServiceTech

When the BBL have to be checked with a calibration?Once a year?

07.28 | Charry
ServiceTech

You mean that almost after 2,5 years the output degrade was from 145J/cm2 initially to 139J/cm2 for this setting?This is almost 4% output degrade during these years.It's impressive!!!

07.28 | Charry
Charry

Initially I was checking the calibration every 6 months but I am confident that an annual check will be fine for the BBL.

07.31 | ServiceTech
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03.15 | Unregistered CommenterCharry

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04.1 | Unregistered CommenterCharry

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