IPL & Cosmetic Laser User Groups > Exilis vs Venus freeze
There are two types of technology to choose from when you want to provide excellent results. These are RF devices and Fractional C02. I've been hearing good feedback from Exilis as this guarantees fast results,

I just bought the Endymed 3 Deep. I've seen great results in their demo. You won't feel extreme heating of the skin. You don't need expensive consumables. Patients love it because it delivers and most of all, it's comfortable.

We've recently started using the Venus Freeze and have been very happy with it. Patients actually enjoy the treatment. We've been seeing results after about three weekly treatments though some patients claim to see improvement after the first treatment. I think the key for all of these devices is patient selection. Applying any of these technologies to a surgical candidate or an obese patient will lead to disappointment for us and the patient. I'll actually write up a brief report of our experience with the Venus Freeze this weekend and post it to medicalspamd.com.

I am looking forward to your post on the Venus freeze.can you comment on the following. 1. Area you are seeing best results2. Any burns noted or other complications 3. Are you seeing fat reduction in body mode 3. Any experience using it post liposuction. 4. How long are you telling patients results last 5. Do you find deflault settings a good starting point 6 . Are you seeing operator fatigue an issue 7. Your opinion of zerona. Thanks. Just added the freeze to my lipo practice

I am using the Venus Freeze. I am not only a technician but I am also a patient myself! No downtime. Good for all skin types. Results are seen immediately. Very comfortable.

Hi Charles,
We have the RF skin tightening and fat freeze machine you mentioned above and you can check these machines at http://www.nubway.net/RF%20Skin%20Tightening%20Machine_1.html
http://www.nubway.net/Lipo%20Laser%20Slimming%20Machine_1.html
http://www.nubway.net/Cryolipolysis%20Slimming%20Machine_1.html
If you are interested in our products please tell me your email add, Whatsapp, Skype?
Am looking forward to your reply.
Many thanks

I have a 2014 Exilis Elite. I like the device but I'm trying to downsize. It is available for sale or lease takeover.
I also have a 2013 Ulthera and 2013 Coolsculpt

Hi Randy,
Please email me kim.maddern@gmail.com re devices
Thanks
Kim

Hi Kim,
This is Randy and I just already emailed you few times, titled "Reply from Randy, Nubway for cosmetic devices".
I want to remind you here that please tell me which device you really want to get to know from us, and I'll then email you another one for further information.
By the way do you have Skype, Whatsapp so that we both can stay in touch instantly?
Many thanks
Randy

Hi Randy, I didn't get your emails for some reason. WHat is your skype ID?

Hi Kim,
Greetings from China.
I'm really so sorry if you didn't get my emails, and my Skype ID is Nubway_Randy.
I'm in Beijing, China, feel free to add me and I'll be reachable all day.
Thanks in advance.

Hi, this is Gerard, from Beijing Noble Laser Technology Co,.Ltd. professional manufacturer of beauty devices.
Our Cryo+RF+lipolaser Crystal CY-E machine with three system:
Cryolipolysis system
lipolaser system
Radio frequency system
More details, please check: http://www.noblelaser.com/products_detail/&productId=100.html
Cryo and lipolaser all is effect on removal cellulite, cryo freeze fat cell, and lipolaser dissolve fat cell.
It only take 40 minutes for cryo treatment, is will get a better result if do a lipolaser treatment nextly.
Patient could do a RF treatment for skin tightening after a week.
Any question, please contact with us
Email: gerard.zhang@noblelaser.com
Skype: noblelaser_gerard

I have the Exilis Elite . I began with the regular exilis 3 years ago and upgraded. The real story is this:
FOrget the company calling it a " game changer" that's hype you MUST pick the proper patient which is someone under 60 preferably between 30-45 who has a bit of loose skin or fine lines. If its sagging forget it.
The elite was nice because it doubled to wattage and decreased the number of treatments from 5 to either 2 or 3.
What I found is 1/3 patients get nothing. Of the 2/3 remaining about 60% will say fantastic I love you the remainder will say huh....okay I guess so . The nothing group feel you cheat3ed them. Results are noted between 3-4 months and seem to last about 1.5-2 years.

Hi Kim,
You ever saw my last post here and I have no idea why you cannot get my emails, they perhaps went into your spam box.
Doesn't matter and my Skype ID is Nubway_Randy, you may also tell me yours here.
Actually it's hard time to creat a post here 'cause this webpage always keep loading(tried to refresh many times) so that I cannot see the picture of code, it requires security code to proceed. So we better do this on Skype.
Am looking forward to your reply.
Regards, Randy

Hi
This is Emily from Beijing Sincoheren the manufacturer of beauty aesthetic machines.
We offer kinds of FDA approved machines, also have some slimming machine, like Kuma shape(RF+infrared light+automatic rolling massage system), Coolplas cryolipolysis slimming machines, tattoo removal laser....
Want to know more information kindly contact with me.
Emily
Emily Ji
WhatsApp/Mob:008613651202931
Skype: emilyfightingaza
Gtalk: emily.sincoheren@gmail.com
Email:emily.beautymachine@gmail.com

Hi
This is Emily from Beijing Sincoheren the manufacturer of beauty aesthetic machines.
We offer kinds of FDA approved machines, also have some slimming machine, like Kuma shape(RF+infrared light+automatic rolling massage system), Coolplas cryolipolysis slimming machines, tattoo removal laser....
Want to know more information kindly contact with me.
Emily
Emily Ji
WhatsApp/Mob:008613651202931
Skype: emilyfightingaza
Gtalk: emily.sincoheren@gmail.com
Email:emily.beautymachine@gmail.com

Hi
This is Emily from Beijing Sincoheren the manufacturer of beauty aesthetic machines.
We offer kinds of FDA approved machines, also have some slimming machine, like Kuma shape(RF+infrared light+automatic rolling massage system), Coolplas cryolipolysis slimming machines, tattoo removal laser....
Want to know more information kindly contact with me.
Emily
Emily Ji
WhatsApp/Mob:008613651202931
Skype: emilyfightingaza
Gtalk: emily.sincoheren@gmail.com
Email:emily.beautymachine@gmail.com

Hi
This is Emily from Beijing Sincoheren the manufacturer of beauty aesthetic machines.
We offer kinds of FDA approved machines, also have some slimming machine, like Kuma shape(RF+infrared light+automatic rolling massage system), Coolplas cryolipolysis slimming machines, tattoo removal laser....
Want to know more information kindly contact with me.
Emily
Emily Ji
WhatsApp/Mob:008613651202931
Skype: emilyfightingaza
Gtalk: emily.sincoheren@gmail.com
Email:emily.beautymachine@gmail.com

I am considering adding a RF skin tightening device to my practice. I Perform a lot of lipo and thought it might be a good adjuvant to my practice. The 2 devices I am looking at are the freeze and the exilis . It seems like the exilis may be better for fat reduction but I like some of the features of the freeze. I have a zerona and results are not good. Don't want to invest in another noninvasive technology that does not work.Anyone have experience with either device.